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but, figuring you're not drawing dead to JT (which is doubtful at this point)

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Do you mean T9? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I think T9 is UTG's most likely hand. I know it doesn't make much sense for a good player to call the raise/3-bet with T9, but I think it was a possible range given his early indication numbers, and then it jumped to the top with his flop play.

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no, i'm not basing his holding on his preflop play. i'm basing figuring a straight isn't blowing out the field here.

and yes i meant T9.

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I guess I'm struggling trying to determine what UTG has that is less than a straight that he would raise with here, and for what purpose???

Also, I wasn't being a smart alek about T9 -- I just thought I might be missing something, which happens often.