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Old 09-07-2005, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: Review: Hands 71 and 75

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How many outs do you give hero on the turn?

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As the original poster said, 9 outs to the flush, 4 outs to the straight, and 3 outs to the pair of Kings. If the Kings are good you're 1.88:1, which makes a bet (or better, a raise) for value straightforward. Even if you totally discount the Kings, you're probably getting better than 2:1 implied odds, aren't you? What am I missing?

-- Scott

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You're duplicating the flush outs - the J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is counted twice. And always discount your overcards. The standard is 1.5 each. So that gives us 9 for the flush, 3 for the non-[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J's, and 1.5 for the K's, giving us a grand total of 13.5 outs. So we'll win this hand on the river card approximately 13.5/46 = 29% of the time. We need at least 3 other callers to make a bet for value.

You might be able to add some implied odds. My understanding (limited though it is) is to consider implied odds when calling, not betting. I could definitely be off there, though.
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