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Old 09-06-2005, 12:41 AM
tizim tizim is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 6m JJ against Michael Davis

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He's welcome to draw to his 0-13 outs if he wants to. If you're talking about draws that thin, it may wind up being the hero who winds up getting the "free card" to 2 barely tainted outs.

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FYP

The only line that hasn't been mentioned is bet, bet. If you decide to bet the turn (which IMO is best) and he calls, you're getting nearly 8:1 on a river bet that he'll fold Kx, which is very possible.

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FYP, if we're going to be technical. Kx may raise for a free showdown. If you bet the turn you have the choice of folding to junk hand raises or paying off an extra bet to big hands. We're OOP, let's just see a showdown as cheap as possible.

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My point was that giving a free card to hands like QJ/QT is not as harmless as you make it out to be, and is worth probably .5BB on average to MD. Do you disagree (my math may be wrong)?

You "fixed" my post to say that MD may be drawing dead. Actually, if he's behind, he's never drawing to less than 4 outs.
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