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Old 09-03-2005, 04:06 PM
Xhad Xhad is offline
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Default Re: Confused about pot odds and winning long term

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Second poster seemed to think the simulation may be a little faulty as it assumes random hands.

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There was also the point about betting after the flop, which is more important. If you flop bottom pair out of position against the raiser, you are very likely to make Fundamental Theorem of Poker "mistakes" after the flop. For example, if the flop is 4 10 10, you are either drawing almost dead, or have the best hand, but the preflop raiser is going to bet either way, so you have to decide whether to call down or not, and sometimes you will decide incorrectly. Other times the flop will be 10 10 5 and you'll have six outs, but then PFR bets, everyone folds, and you fold despite getting odds to continue, whereas if you had stuck around you would get a four on the river (and the simulator is awarding "wins" for this, most likely). He's probably going to know when he has you beat more often than the other way around, especially since you don't have much "big hand" potential other than being sooted.
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