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Old 09-01-2005, 10:21 AM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Default Re: The flop and the turn.

peter:

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A friend and I debated this point last night. He argued that SB couldn't possibly be holding anything that it would benefit us for him to fold, except JT which isn't going anywhere ever. Other Kings aren't folding either, most likely.

I argued that it would be nice to fold out even hands like AQ or gutshots.

I ran some examples through a poker odds calculator, and it seems as though my friend was right. I couldn't find any hands where it would actually benefit us to have them fold.

Can someone support or refute this?

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I don't know if I can refute this, but I can say that hands like KJs or KTs are going to find it hard to continue facing 2 cold on the turn.

Also, if we just call the turn, the sb is getting 12:1, so hands like AJs, ATs, AQ, etc. are getting the right price to continue.....not so if we raise. Granted, with our flush draw, our opponent is not getting much of an overlay at all to call at 12:1, but figure in the chance that he makes a bad fold with the best hand, and raising looks better than calling.

--Rico
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