Thanks for the reply. I have seen the post in the FAQ before and it would be shocking if the 230K hands didn't come out looking properly random. I expect the stats to even out longterm. My suspicion is the same as many others of course. The random trip can be bumpy or smooth which can affect many thins in terms of play and profit. I use pokertracker and evrything is as it should be, as I expected it would be and will remain. I am just amazed at how confident people are on here. I'm up overall online as is my good friend. He is more inline with the bootsteppers here but he is also a robotic stat gobbler. Companies can be very creative when adjusting their profit margins. More creative than people that look at 230k hands, look at their bankrolls and listen to the fantastic stories of others and say "yup, makes no sense to manipulate anything." Good players are gonna win online longterm, I've never questioned that. I've only questioned the rate at which they win. Almost like trusting Vegas casinos back in the day by reasoning they would kill their reputation and business if they were caught cheating. Pretty naive. Do most of the people on here believe kids are dying in Iraq for anything more than incresed profit margins. If you can manage to believe and really comprehend that innocent American kids are getting holes blown through their spines for little more than business interests, you may begin to see that maybe just maybe an offshore, unregulated, gambling business may be a little tempted to adjust profits. until it can be proved that everything is totally legit, I'll remain skeptical. I'll also continue to play and win online.