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Dvaut1,
I take you are ready to convert to Islam? Seems like you think any idea to the contrary is plainly held by those of inferior intelligence. You have me convinced Patriotism is plainly for the stupid. Let's roll over and appease any aggressor. If we play ball, maybe we won't get sent to the concentration camps for extermination. Maybe we can polish Osama's leather bound Koran instead.
X

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Congrats X... you've:

1- Brought in Islam in a discussion where it wasnt needed or mentioned with respect to the poster in question(should we start tossing around Jew as well?)... even if he hypothetically decided to convert for whatever reason your statement would be a futile personal attack at best.

2- "Let's roll over and appease any aggressor"...Iraq was the aggressor? (I can think of two cases where that was true; The Iraq-Iran war which we supported and Gulf War 1). By definition and even by the arguements of the Bush administration this was a pre-emptive (at best) or more simply a pro-active war.

3- "If we play ball" great analogy. I must say that your reasoning behind such a statement (linking Iraq to Islamic extremism which is incredibly shady at best [pre-war] and then suggesting mass extermination) is both convincing and well thought out. Saddam planned 9/11 (or executed any other terrorist operation recently against the US)? Wow... seems like liberals had myself and 99.9% of the World's intelligence community fooled.

4- "You have me convinced patriotism is plainly for the stupid" I dont think that was his intent nor do I really think he accomplished that for anyone. I do however think he intended to point out that A: This "memo" is extremely highly likely to be a fraud totally unrelated to actual Administration policy and that B: I agree it's a fairly poor read... not only will the Administration likely dance around this woman (since its a real no win situation for them) but if they did make a statement it would be far less confrontational ["Lets attack a war mother"] and make far fewer sweeping generalizations as attempting to wrap the issue in patriotism carries the risk of backlash. As for the Patriotism comment... you're making a sound play calling someone who disagrees with you un-American or anti-patriotic after all rational dissent is never an option.

5- "leather bound Koran" You really dont understand the dynamics of Islamic Fundamentalism do you? It's infinitely more about the politics and the economics... religion is just the packaging and transmission. Read "Imperial Hubris" or any other assesment that does more than say "they hate us for our freedom" (if that was the de facto truth Amsterdam would be toast right now with their laid back social policies).

As for the troll comment; Im not going to judge or read your previous material but I will say with full confidence that you added no substance to this arguement and only weakened the position of those that agree with you for the sake of tossing around trite "you hate america if you disagree" and "islam will take us over if we dont kill them all" insults.

Disclaimer: Before you get hissy. I am a republican. I am against (from what I know of his ideology..) the majority of Dvaut1's policies. But I'd rather see someone try to destroy him with statements of fact not asinine commentary Ann Coulter might shudder at; someone who could argue rather than uselessly rant.