[TheWorstPlayer]

Very nice post, thanks. And welcome back.

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However, one thing you neglect to show is how he bets with a real hand. You have shown CR's and raises, but no plain value bets or bets with monsters.


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He's usually pretty aggressive, but can mix it up. As I said, he's good. Probably slightly worse than I am at Holdem, but certainly not much worse. He's good.

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First, I think you are remembering the hand from a few months ago more than villain likely is. This post really feels like you want to justify a call here on the hand in question.


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Well, I'm not trying to justify anything, I'm just trying to layout some of the history so that you guys can have a clue as to what I was thinking about in each of these hands. But yes, I was definitely thinking about Hand 1 a lot in Hand 2 and I don't think he was. As I said, I should have folded instead of pushed in Hand 2. He is more 'tight' than tricky usually and for him to make that small raise should have been pretty clear to me that he had a monster. Bah, I played badly and lost my stack. It happens. But I wanted to include Hand 2 because it was VERY much in both our minds during hands 3 and 4.

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Second, I think I hate your push in hand two. I would really rather see a call of this min-raise, and re-evaluate UI on the river, especially given your read of him on a draw, which I honestly don't see. You went from putting ~$35 into the pot to putting ~$180 on what seems like a whim. Maybe I am being results oriented, but why are you pushing him off of a draw that he already priced himself out of? I'm not necessarily willing to give this hand up, but I think you might see a cheap showdown if you call turn, check river.


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Well, if I thought he had a draw here more than 50% of the time, I should re-raise to charge him to draw or to make him fold, right? But I shouldn't have thought that, given the action, really, and I shouldn't have pushed. You are right and I paid $150 for my mistake. Damnit.

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Hand 3, I don't push turn at all. I like how you played it, and I also check behind on the river. I do understand your point about a pretty clear 6-ouer that you won't be able to see when it hits. I guess if you have the read on him, I would say go for it, but it is clear from this thread that you don't necessarily have him read yet. Hence, I play this one more cautiously.


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Just to clarify, in case it's not clear: I was 100% calling a push on the river. I did not at all think I was behind more than 50% of the time here. I thought I was behind maybe 10% of the time. And when I was behind, I was behind to a set. No way he has a K here with that pot sized bet on flop and turn. Just trying way too hard to push me out.

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As for the hand in question, can I ask what you have him read for there? Personally, I don't like the turn bet. I would check behind here, as I am not interested in playing a big pot with a 3-flush on board and a weak ace in my hand.


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I'll explain my thinking later.

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Sorry if this post is long and awful. I am a bit rusty, as I haven't played or posted in well over a month. I'll work back into mediocre shape soon enough. Oh, and I have been trying to diversify my game into tourneys a bit lately, so this ring game stuff might take a bit of getting used to again.

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Nope, very nice post. Welcome back.