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Old 08-24-2005, 12:23 PM
JrJordan JrJordan is offline
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Default Re: My hand went to [censored] and all I got was this stupid t-shirt

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Just to clarify my understanding, the reason that QQ is the worst card on the turn is that we are assuming that he has AA, KK, AKs, AKo, QQ, or JJ. And since we are already behind everything but JJ and QQ on the flop, the turn card makes it so that we are only ahead of JJ? So basically we have a 1 in 6 chance of winning this hand.

Just want to make sure I am getting this. Anticipating other peoples hands is something that I am trying to work on, but is hard at 0.50 / 1.00 as people will play anything!

Cheers!

Margon

P.S. thanks for the comments, I need to learn.

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The reason why the Q is an awful card is because prior to this I had top pair top kicker. Anyone else with just an A would be losing to be. However when the Q hits, I am now chopping with any other sole A out there (the board would read AAKKQ for anyone with an A and the kickers will not play). This however, isn't a huge deal from before since the likelihood the preflop raiser has a lower A (AJ or less) is minimal. What it does do in addition though, is take away one of the very few hands the PFR could have that I beat before, QQ. Now, AK, AA, KK, and QQ all beat me. And an overaggro AQ chops with me. I'm still ahead of JJ and TT at this point, however the chances that he continues to fire away into this 3-way hand on the turn/riv with one of those is also minimal.

I think check/calling the flop is the best line here. I'm either WA or WB big time and there's no reason to throw in extra bets that allows a lower PP to get away or a better hand to 3-bet. Fairly standard on this part.
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