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Old 08-23-2005, 03:14 PM
MrMoo MrMoo is offline
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Default Re: AA 3rd hand into tournament. How would YOU play it?

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Only limp in with Aces when you are UTG at a table filled with LAG's (Loose-Aggressive) who've been raising alot of pots preflop.

Raising is exactly the reason you eliminate hands like 5-6, 6-7, 6-8, 6-anything.

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Agreed

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They called 3.5 BB preflop. I might have raise a little more than 50 actually.. In the early stages people are more likely to make liberal calls.. and already with one limper, I probably make it 75 to go (5 BB).

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Agree again. Because so many people like to limp early in the tournaments my usual bet is about 5x BB here. Considering I've already got one limper, I'm likely to make it even more. I think that was probably my biggest mistake on the hand.

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I wouldn't worry about those sixes.. Your opponent calling that bet on the flop certaintly tells me he has something.. The likely hood of it being a 6 is far lower than the Queen. A-Q, K-Q, Q-J are very realistic possibilities this early in a tournament that a weak or loose player might be holding. You can't run scared everytime the board pairs or you won't get far.

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Agree again. I really doubt he has the 6 here. I think AQ is less likely as I hold two aces but still a possability. QJ is also possible but without any reads I have to assume that this is a logical player who would be smart enough to fold that. If he has QQ I'm screwed regardless and I'm going broke so I'm not worried about that. All the above are possabilities but I think the most likely hand here is KQ.

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The fact that he led out on the turn, tells me that he doesn't have a 6 or a set. The bet on the turn tells me he has the queen.

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Agree yet again. I think he wanted to find out where he was. At this point, I know I have the best hand.

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The only other possibility, if it's a very loose player, who likes to steal pots, is two random hearts, maybe A-K or A-J hearts and he thinks you're bluffing, or he's setting up a bluff. If he's still holding a 6 or a set of queens (very unlikely) or if he made a set of 5s on the turn, its very unlikely he's betting into you here. He would more than likely check raise or check-call, then bet the river.

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Absolutely but at this point without any reads I'd say he's got KQ the majority of the time. Also possible would be AQ, QJ, Q10, KK, AA, JJ, and maybe even 1010. Also he could still be chasing a club draw.


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This is why you MUST, push all in on the turn. The simple 500 raise won't get it done. Push him all in and make him call of his stack with either the heart draw, or the A-Q, K-Q, Q-J.

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This is the only part I disagree. And I'm not even sure I'm right here. This is in my opinion the interesting part of the hand. I don't like a push. I think my bet size is good enough to drag Qx along but enough to chase out the flush draws. Granted I could likely take it down with a push here but I think I have a better chance of getting his entire stack with this bet. I think (maybe wrongly) that in the long run I'll milk more from players in situations like these if I avoid pushing and simply milk their stack a little at a time.

P.S. Forgot to add, VERY impressive hand analysis.
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