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Old 08-22-2005, 09:24 PM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
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Default Donk donk...triple

Does anyone use this line, or like it here? How do you feel about preflop? (me, I couldn't resist..)

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (10.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

During the hand, it occurred to me that this line is really useful against TAGs in all sorts of blind/OOP scenarios. A lot of us auto-raise these donkbets on the flop and enjoy a second act on the turn with big pairs or when we've hit the board, especially against donks and unknowns. I've even seen decent/aggro players make 'free showdown' raises with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in a spot like this.

This line doesn't work when you checkraise the flop because the aggressive players won't reraise you with as wide a range of hands, or at least that is what I'm thinking. So you give up ~.5BB (assuming you are ahead, stay ahead, and reach showdown) trying to win 1.5BB. Worth it?

(Not giving a turn free card is a huge incentive for the donkbet, but I want to downplay the 3-flush aspect.)
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