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the villians are both very loose and very agressive.

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Isn't 48/7/.68 very loose and somewhat passive preflop, and very passive post flop?


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Sort of. You're right about the preflop, but the problem is that the postflop AF cannot be viewed independently of the preflop numbers.

Let me give you an example. Let's say you have someone with 15/7/0.68 stats. I'm assuming we'd all agree he's weak-tight because his range of starting hands is fairly small (that's OK) but he fails to extract money postflop when he has the best hand (which will be pretty often because he's usually coming in with the best hand).

Now compare him to someone with 48/7/0.68 stats. He's just as likely to bet, raise, whatever postflop as the weak-tight guy. But unlike the weak-tight guy, this loose guy is playing almost half of his hands. So he's far more likely to be betting and raising with weak hands or total garbage than the weak-tight guy.

The end result is that the 48/7/0.68 is actually loose aggressive, both pre and post flop.