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Old 08-20-2005, 06:57 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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Default Re: What I Learned This Summer ( really really long)

this is a good post and it will help alot of people because its real. people trying to make their way up will learn from people on their way up, so for those people your time spent writing this will be a great help.

however, for your benefit, id like to say that some of your logic in this post is a little jumbled. i dont think anything you said was clearly wrong, but your concepts on certain things you discussed are a little rough on the edges.



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But its more important to realize that if you were a 3bb/100 player and you decided to start folding AJo utg, you would still be a 3bb/100 winner.

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i know what your point was when making this statement, so i dont want to discredit your post on a technicality, but please realize how silly and incorrect this line truly is. always raising or always folding AJo UTG is going to be a horrible standard for many players who fit the "in between" category. as players, we should be trying to understand what table context allows AJo to be profitable in first position and how to recognize that context. there are players who should always be folding this hand UTG and there are players who should always be raising with it (depending on the limit of course). knowing where you stand and how to extract maximum value out of AJo whether you fold or raise with it will certainly alter your long term winrate even if only by a small amount. we are here to push edges and this is an edge that many people are unsure of when and how to push.

however, there is good wisdom in your statement, even if the logic is rough on the edges. fact of the matter is that we are not dealt AJo UTG very often and players spend too much time discussing these concepts rather than learning how to play postflop instead. however, i do hope that when players spend their time discussing whether AJo UTG is profitable or not they realize that they will benefit more from simply contemplating what makes a hand profitable than actually learning how to play this particular situation correctly.


btw, i wish we had met up at turningstone. i just got home today as well but was only there thursday and friday. i didnt really play much tho. you should have drank with us.
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