[Al_Capone_Junior]

Open-raising 4x the blind is one thing, but raising 4x the blind after someone limps in is quite another. You will usually be called if someone has already limped. This is a very important thing to realize, as you don't want to be playing QT against someone who's withstood a raise. When someone has already entered the pot, it's pointless to try and steal anything, as you will very rarely be successful, unless you want to raise it considerably more than 4x the blind.

The best play on the QT hand would have been to limp pre-flop. After that, you may or may not have been able to get away from the hand, but the SB with KQ would have almost certainly bet, instead of checking to the raiser, and you'd have been faced with a totally different situation.

al