[JJNJustin]

I play at these two casinos regularly. They are not "player friendly". Here are my complaints:

Greektown: large room, no large tournaments. No sit-n-go tournaments. Management designs games in order to maximize net profit/minute. Consequently slower games like 7-stud and O8B are not offered.

Their no limit game: 50-100 (50 min 100 max) with $1-$2 blinds charges $12 hr rake. So more than likely any player will be short stacked and then go broke many times before getting lucky. If you do manage to become a chip leader, you will find yourself wanting to stay for many days at a time to keep this advantage. A silly house game, all-in-all.

$5-$10 and even $10-$20 games dying out. No limit cash games dominating the room.

Dealers are poor in speed and service for the high rake the poker room gets on all of its games. The sign-in for the games is the most ridiculous joke. I mean, how hard can it be to do this job? Take names and put them on lists. These employees choke on it. Sometimes when they are too busy they refuse to answer the phone. You can never see where you are at on the list.

The attitude of the management in general is to rape players and maximize their profits.

Grade: D-

Motor City is almost about the same, although their morning tournament sit and goes are pretty good, the entry fee just about right and the blinds dont go up too fast. The $50-$200 no limit game is a great small no-limit game that beats the hell out of Greektown. The rake is still $12/hr which is tough to beat, but beatable. The rake on the limit games is outrageous: a whopping $6 + $1 bad beat per hand. And what is really outrageous is that the do not lower it or consider lowering it for short handed action (which occurs frequently).

They do have a nice complimentary snack bar and soda fountain machine in the back, but in my opinion this just allows them to minimize cocktail waitress workload. Players can serve themselves. The sandwiches and cookies are a nice plus though, although its not the sort of thing my fatass needs to eat everyday.

Grade: C-