[djoyce003]

well a headsup challenge with a significant amount of big bets in each persons starting hand should do the trick. Something like 1000 BB's and you play till someone has them all. That oughta cover any luck in the short term...assuming you know how to play headsup well because they certainly won't.

I think people are missing the point on whether it's determined by chance. The outcome of a HAND is determined by chance, but the amount won/lost on said outcome is determined by SKILL. That is the difference....yeah if you took doyle brunson, and some average moron, and just dealt hands to each one, the moron would win the same # of hands over the long term...but he'd lose more on his bad ones, and win less on his good ones because he's a moron.