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Old 08-08-2005, 10:03 PM
Vroomster Vroomster is offline
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Default Re: Look Mom/Dad I won 12K

Your story sounded a lot like something I just went through a month ago, with the main difference being I didn't win 12k. I'm a 21 year old college student, pursuing my masters, and at home for the summer because my internship is in the city nearby. Due to this, I'd spend an hour or 2 playing poker every weekday, sometimes a bit more if i don't have plans, which is rare. On the weekends, its quite a few more hours, usually 4-6, because my friends don't want to hang out until the evening/night. When my parents noticed that I was playing, they asked me if I was playing for real money. Rather than lie to them, I told them that it was for real money, and that I had been playing for over a year. At that point, all hell broke loose.

My parents made the following points:

1) Poker is just gambling, and gambling holds the risk of losing all your money, and going into debt.

My answer: I explained some of the basic ideas behind winning play; how it was based on math, how with strict bankroll management, and the discipline to drop down limits when losing. I then showed them that I had a winning record. If this explanation does not soften them even a little bit, then there is little hope that they will ever see poker as a beatable game.


2) Do I plan to just play poker all the time, and throw away my life?

My answer: I understand that my parents and I have put in a great deal of money and effort into getting an eduction. I don't plan on quitting my education. I plan on continuing to work in the technology sector, and that poker will just be a sideline hobby for me. To parents who are brought up in the old school line of thought that a 9-5 job that is high paying (100k+) is the key to having a comfortable life, the idea that you might get enamored with short term success and quit everything else, leaving you with no security net is terrifying.

3) What you're doing is immoral. You are stripping people of their money who most likely need it. There will be people who are leaving their family hungry because of you.

I didn't have much of answer for my dad for this question, mostly because I didn't realize it until he brought it up. I never could give him a satisfactory answer for this because I knew that deep down, I didn't really care about these people, as cold as that seems. They had taken the risk of sitting down at a table where the rule is to take the money of everyone else sitting down. However, to my dad, who was brought up with the thinking that gambling is for degenerates and lowlifes, and is often looked upon as the easy way out for poor people (Read about the numbers game played in Brazil, which my dad used in his argument). In the end, my dad will probably never fully respect my poker playing, but I don't always respect all his choices either. That is life, you learn to cut people slack, and if they don't, you shrug and move on.


My final understanding with my parents was that I would play, but always be careful to limit my time playing, and they would not comment upon my playing because it was a choice I was making in my own life. They had shared their thoughts, and I had shared mine, and we understand that we cannot come to a mutual agreement on all issues. I generally never refer to the topic of poker around them, and promise to keep my education as my top priority. It probably helps that my parents were brought up in anohter country, and that we have argued over other issues. In some of them we have come up with resolutions, but in some others we were not able to. Poker will be one of the latter issues.

Now, a lot of ppl have been advocating telling your parents to [censored] off. I'm not sure what your relationship is with your parents, but I love my parents, and respect them a great deal. They have given a great deal to make me happy, and have always sacrificed to give my sister and me whatever we need. Due to that, I'll always listen to what they have to say, but in the end, it is my life, and I have to make my own decisions as an adult. After I move out, they wont really know/care that I play poker part-time. I will hopefully have a job that I enjoy (I've usually enjoyed my internships), and this way, they'll feel that they have brought up a productive upstanding citizen. In a way, by ignoring my poker playing, they're fooling themselves, but, I say if doing something makes you happy, it is your choice.

Good luck with your parents. [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
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