[SayGN]

I don't have a real answer for you, but I don't think that Negreanu and Lederer are the players that Greenstein was talking about. These guys aren't strictly tournament players. I think there was some talk about how lederer could hold his own at greenstein's game but didn't feel comfortable with the stakes. Those are some pretty huge stakes, and you can be rich without having the bankroll to play there consistently. Based on the life that Negreanu talks about in his blog and the fact that he is making decent money off his cash game challenges leads me to believe that he is also a winning player and does not have to be backed. And as for Phil Ivey...Greenstein called him one of the world's top 5 players. Ivey plays against greenstein in the world's biggest cash game on a nightly basis and he shows a solid profit. I don't know how much money alot of the "espn pros" make, but the guys you just listed are a cut above the hacks that greenstein talked about in his article.