Re: Cards live till literally touching the Muck?
Even in the big clubs in LA where the rules are "more or less" standardized you are going to get different decisions here. When I worked the floor years ago I'd tend to award the pot to the best hand because my interpertation is that "card's speak" and "best hand gets the pot" (when all action is complete) trumps most other rules. But some very experienced floormen would argue that in this case "one player to a hand" was violated, and thus the pot would be awarded to you.
BTW, cards that are clearly identifiable can be retrieved from the muck in certain circumstances.
~ Rick
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