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Old 08-02-2005, 10:42 AM
SheridanCat SheridanCat is offline
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Default Re: How did I play this hand? (total newbie)

I'll be a little less tough on you than Les was, but I generally agree with what he's telling you. Yep, you won, but you won't normally win against a sane opponent.

Preflop I prefer to raise with this hand because I'm intersted in narrowing the number of players in the hand. Against one other opponent you have pretty good preflop equity against a random hand - something like 65%. As the number of players increases you still have higher equity than your fair share, but it starts to get worse and worse - not to mention you're out of position on every round. Here are the rough numbers from Poker Stove:

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equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 24.3996 % [ 00.23 00.01 ] { AcJh }
Hand 2: 15.1134 % [ 00.14 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 3: 15.1318 % [ 00.14 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 4: 15.0181 % [ 00.14 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 5: 15.1646 % [ 00.14 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 6: 15.1721 % [ 00.14 00.01 ] { random }

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equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 28.8723 % [ 00.28 00.01 ] { AcJh }
Hand 2: 17.7707 % [ 00.17 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 3: 17.7814 % [ 00.17 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 4: 17.7760 % [ 00.17 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 5: 17.7995 % [ 00.17 00.01 ] { random }

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equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 35.3026 % [ 00.34 00.01 ] { AcJh }
Hand 2: 21.5783 % [ 00.21 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 3: 21.5594 % [ 00.21 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 4: 21.5596 % [ 00.21 00.01 ] { random }

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equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 45.4951 % [ 00.44 00.01 ] { AcJh }
Hand 2: 27.2515 % [ 00.26 00.01 ] { random }
Hand 3: 27.2532 % [ 00.26 00.01 ] { random }

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equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 63.5808 % [ 00.63 00.01 ] { AcJh }
Hand 2: 36.4192 % [ 00.35 00.01 ] { random }
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Okay, the flop misses you completely but you have two overcards. You try a checkraise, which I think is an okay play when you hold overcards to a flop, but the odds of successfully getting both players to fold is slim, so this is a free card play for the most part. You want to see the river for free trying to hit the backdoor flush or backdoor straight.

Overall I think this pot just isn't big enough to fight for, but your line isn't terrible. Yet.

On the turn things go south in my opinion. Rather than try for a free card by checking, you bet. I'm assuming you thought the king might be a scare card for your opponent. You've missed your backdoor draws, so about the only outs you've got now are three aces - at best. I would have preferred to check this down and folded to any bet. Calling the turn raise is a big mistake, I think.

On the river you're getting 9:1 on your call. I think this is an automatic call given the odds. So, you played this right.

The results are irrelevant. You should have been out of this hand on the turn. I know it seems like your opponent is a total maniac/moron, but look at his play. He took the lead from the flop onward. That whole time he was leveraging fold equity and forcing you to make bad decisions.

Rather than reading Small Stakes Hold'em, I would suggest starting with Getting Started In Hold'em by Ed Miller.

Also, continue playing at this level while you're reading and learning.

Regards,

T
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