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Old 07-27-2003, 04:21 AM
elysium elysium is offline
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Default Re: Nut flush on paired board

hi ulysses
it looks ok and no reason to suspect a boat here but i'm looking at the awful turn. you need to bet out in this situation ulysses.

if you bet out the action goes like this; bet, raise, reraise (by you) and either call or reraise. it's a little technical but you do not want to reraise a reraise without the nuts. to avoid that situation you must bet out into your opponent. now if you reraise a raise, that's fine. your hand can stand that. but it cannot stand reraising a reraise.

when you check-raise your opponent, you lose your radar a little because his reraise of your raise can mean that he has the nuts or a weaker hand. but if you bet out and he raises and then you reraise when he (a); calls, you know that he only has trips. when he (b); reraises your reraise, you can assume that he has the nuts and check and call on the river.

but the way you played it, not only did you risk a check-down failing to get more money in the pot with the likely winner, but you lost your read, and now may be facing an avoidable river raise. so the extra bet you got on the turn was not a bet that enhanced your position but one that weakend your position. and your check on the turn with the nut flush ulysses? just awful. never ever do that. even if you know for a fact that your opponent will bet when you check your nut flush, always bet it out yourself. i remember a post by you in which your opponent checked his nut flush and you checked behind on the turn, but then you got check-raised by him on the river. well, he was wrong to go for the turn check-raise. don't you start check-raising your nut flush because it is always a mistake to do so. yes, sometimes they're successful, but when you look into further you'll see check-raising the nut flush is a big no no. but this one here really stinks. you lose read. that's way bad.
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