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Old 08-01-2005, 03:49 PM
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Default PLO8, playing draws on the turn

I'm still having trouble knowing when to holdem or foldem on the turn. Tell me which of the following hands seem correct to you...



Hand #1

v1 is aggressive but not crazy. The flop bet could be a low draw semibluff, but most likely he has some decent high based on his turn bet.

$400 PL Omaha Hi/Lo
folder4 ( $226.80 ), Hero ( $421 ), v1 ( $533.85 ),
folder1 ( $294.80 ), folder5 ( $0 ), folder2 ( $249.72 ),
folder3 ( $400 )

Dealt to Hero [ T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]

v1 posts small blind [$2].
folder2 posts big blind [$4].
folder3 posts big blind [$4].
folder1 calls [$4], folder4 folds, folder3 checks,
Hero raises [$22], v1 calls [$20], folder2 folds,
folder1 folds, folder3 folds

FLOP: (53.20) [ 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
v1 bets [$53.20], Hero calls [$53.20]

TURN: (159.40) [ Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
v1 bets [$159.40], Hero calls [$159.40]

Results in white below:
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RIVER: (478.20) [ Jh ]
v1 is all-In [$299.25]
Hero folds


v1 does not show cards.

v1 wins $777.45

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Hand #2

v1 is an aggressive player who frequently goes allin with two pair or a non-nut flush.

$400 PL Omaha Hi/Lo
f1 ( $142.05 ), v1 ( $1149.04 ),
f2 ( $976.45 ), f3 ( $503.10 ), f4 ( $665.10 ),
f5 ( $523.50 ), v2 ( $179.39 ), f6 ( $392 ), Hero ($414.30 ),
f7 ( $121 )

Hero is MP1 with [ Qc Ad Td 4c ]

f1 posts small blind [$2].
v1 posts big blind [$4].
2 folds, f3 calls [$4], Hero calls [$4], 2 folds, v2
raises [$22], 1 fold, v1 calls [$18], f3 calls [$18],
Hero calls [$18]

FLOP: (87.00) [ 3h, Js, 2h ]
v1 checks, f3 checks, Hero checks, v2 checks

TURN: (87.00) [ 9c ]
v1 bets [$87], f3 folds, Hero calls [$87], v2 is
all-In [$157.39], v1 calls [$70.39], Hero calls [$70.39]

Results in white below:
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RIVER: (559.17) [ 8c ]
v1 bets [$559.17], Hero is all-In [$234.91]

v1 shows [ 2c, 6c, 4d, 2d ] three of a kind, twos.
v1 shows 8,6,4,3,2 for low.
Hero shows [ Qc, Ad, Td, 4c ] a straight, eight to queen.
Hero shows 8,4,3,2,A for low.
v2 shows [ As, 9d, 4s, 6s ] a pair of nines.
v2 shows 8,4,3,2,A for low.

v1 wins $162.13 from side pot #2 with three of a kind, twos.
v1 wins Lo ($162.13) from side pot #2 with 8,6,4,3,2.
Hero wins $234.91 from side pot #1 with a straight, eight to queen.
Hero wins Lo ($234.91) from side pot #1 with 8,4,3,2,A.
Hero wins $279.59 from the main pot with a straight, eight to queen.
v2 wins Lo ($139.79) from the main pot with 8,4,3,2,A.
Hero wins Lo ($139.79) from the main pot with 8,4,3,2,A.

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Hand #3

$400 PL Omaha Hi/Lo
folder1 ( $407 ), folder4 ( $533.88 ), folder2 ( $1009.02 ),
folder6 ( $229.77 ), folder3 ( $503.35 ), v2 ( $396 ),
folder7 ( $400 ), Hero ( $400 ), folder5 ( $654.60 )

Dealt to Hero [ 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]

folder1 posts small blind [$2].
Hero posts big blind [$4].
folder4 calls [$4], folder2 calls [$4], folder6 folds,
folder3 calls [$4], v2 calls [$4], folder7 folds,
folder5 calls [$4], folder1 calls [$2], Hero checks

FLOP: (26.60) [ Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
folder1 checks, Hero checks, folder4 checks, folder2 checks,
folder3 checks, v2 bets [$25], folder5 folds, folder1 folds,
Hero calls [$25], folder4 folds, folder2 folds, folder3 folds

TURN: (75.00) [ 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Hero checks, v2 bets [$75], Hero calls [$75]

Results in white below:
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RIVER: (225.00) [ Kd ]
Hero checks, v2 bets [$55], Hero calls [$55]


v2 shows [ 3d, Kh, Ks, 8c ] four of a kind, kings.
Hero doesn't show [ 2c, Ah, 7c, 7h ] a full house, Sevens full of kings.

v2 wins $335 from the main pot with four of a kind, kings.
There was no qualifying low hand.

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Hand #4

v1 is a very loose-aggressive player with a win-rate higher than mine.

$400 PL Omaha Hi/Lo
folder1 ( $486 ), folder2 ( $405.10 ), folder6 ( $457 ),
folder7 ( $185.45 ), Hero ( $603.30 ), folder3 ( $278.50 ),
folder8 ( $323 ), folder5 ( $227.50 ), v1 ( $401.50 ),
folder4 ( $273 )

Dealt to Hero [ A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]

folder8 posts small blind [$2].
folder5 posts big blind [$4].
Hero raises [$10], v1 calls [$10], folder1 folds,
folder2 folds, folder4 folds, folder6 folds, folder7 folds,
folder3 folds, folder8 folds, folder5 folds

FLOP: (24.70) [ 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Hero bets [$24.70], v1 calls [$24.70]

TURN: (72.40) [ T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
Hero bets [$72.40]

Results in white below:
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v1 raises [$289.60], Hero folds


v1 does not show cards.

v1 wins $434.40

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