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Old 08-01-2005, 06:58 AM
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Default Re: Possibly the longest bubble I\'ve ever been in

Okay some problems. You played fine until the 200-400 round but then the following hand came up...

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"***** Hand History for Game 2456042944 *****
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 14428309) - Sun Jul 31 18:31:53 EDT 2005
Table Table 15002 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: pernoctali (675)
Seat 5: Pimp_Stick (1125)
Seat 9: LiquordUp (4230)
Seat 10: Hero (1970)
Hero posts small blind (200)
pernoctali posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 8d, 7s ]
Pimp_Stick folds.
LiquordUp folds.
Hero folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 600
pernoctali balance 875, bet 400, collected 600, net +200
Pimp_Stick balance 1125, didn't bet (folded)
LiquordUp balance 4230, didn't bet (folded)
Hero balance 1770, lost 200 (folded) "

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Needless to say this is a dreadful fold on your part. Studying the math like I know you have been shouldn't allow you to make such folds. Please realize the true value of 87o headsup.

Hand 2 that I have a problem with is...


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***** Hand History for Game 2456045056 *****
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 14428309) - Sun Jul 31 18:32:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 15002 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: pernoctali (875)
Seat 5: Pimp_Stick (1125)
Seat 9: LiquordUp (4230)
Seat 10: Hero (1770)
pernoctali posts small blind (200)
Pimp_Stick posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Th, 9c ]
LiquordUp folds.
Hero folds.
pernoctali raises (675) to 875
pernoctali is all-In.
LiquordUp: god damnit
Pimp_Stick calls (475)
Creating Main Pot with $1750 with pernoctali
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6h, 3h, Kc ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 9d ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1750 |
Board: [ 6h 3h Kc 7h 9d ]
pernoctali balance 1750, bet 875, collected 1750, net +875 [ 9h Jh ] [ a flush, jack high -- Jh,9h,7h,6h,3h ]
Pimp_Stick balance 250, lost 875 [ 5d As ] [ high card ace -- As,Kc,9d,7h,6h ]
LiquordUp balance 4230, didn't bet (folded)
Hero balance 1770, didn't bet (folded) "




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This is a clear allin to me. Both blinds should play very tight here, making it clearly +EV. Whenever its on the bubble and the SB has fewer chips than the BB, and you have the button...a steal often makes sense.

This is an obvious allin to me, however the first hand is even more clearcut, because that's pure math, whereas in this hand you might know that they have loose calling standards.


I also hate the following hand. Please note that all hands I've claimed to hate have been consecutively played

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Pimp_Stick: lol
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 14428309) - Sun Jul 31 18:32:59 EDT 2005
Table Table 15002 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: pernoctali (1750)
Seat 5: Pimp_Stick (250)
Seat 9: LiquordUp (4230)
Seat 10: Hero (1770)
Pimp_Stick posts small blind (200)
LiquordUp posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Js, Ac ]
Hero calls (400)
pernoctali folds.
Pimp_Stick folds.
LiquordUp checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9s, Jd, Kc ]
LiquordUp checks.
Hero bets (500)
LiquordUp folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1500
Board: [ 9s Jd Kc ]
pernoctali balance 1750, didn't bet (folded)
Pimp_Stick balance 50, lost 200 (folded)
LiquordUp balance 3830, lost 400 (folded)
Hero balance 2370, bet 900, collected 1500, net +600

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Just don't do this calling crap. I hate it. I'd rather fold than flat call here. Allin is reasonable as well, as the SB should still call you. The BB is an idiot for not raising of course.


Anyway so it was basically all fine except for those 3 hands. Also I would have moved allin preflop with the T7o when the BB was allin for 50. It's practically 200 in dead chips sitting there from the SB, and keeping the bubble alive doesnt hurt you at all here. Pushing there is almost surely +EV
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