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Old 07-25-2005, 06:54 PM
Cyrus Cyrus is offline
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Logic and morality do exist! This is an undisputable fact.


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It's hardly indisputable. How can logic exist in a universe that's ultimately irrational? How can you get an ought from an is?

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Logic and Morality do exist in our world. Explain me how you would read Theory of Poker if Logic did not exist? Explain me why I would not kill my wife's rapist if morality did not exist?

You are saying that God created Logic and Morality -- or, rather, that they are part of His nature. But I just showed that all kinds of logic and morality (even non-logic and immorality) should be part of His nature too, if Christian dogma is followed.


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How can logic exist in a universe that's ultimately irrational?

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This question assumes that there is some deterministic grand scheme (e.g. God) behind it all. Well, the world can very well be (or appear to be) irrational to us humans but this should not preclude us humans from being rational!

Logic exists because we Men try to understand our world and our existence in it, by using the abilities of our brains. (Seeing as the blood sacrifices of thousands of virgins or praying for runner-runner were not much help.)

Sklansky considers the existence of Morality a mere biological evolutionary blimp.

Others consider it a manifestation of Man's empathy to fellow Man on account of Man's profound (yet unacknowledged) realization of the randomness of this universe and Man's very existence. Consequently, the realisation of the forced and equal sharing of such horror places Man squarely in the place of any other being like him, i.e. other Men.

Man adopts Morality in his dealings with other Men because this is the only compassion Man is ever likely to get, if only by reflection, in this world.

--Cyrus

PS : Our world is not "irrational"; it's just not rational the way we humans understand ratio (reason). There might very well be a ratio in our world which we are/will allways be totally unable to comprehend.

PPS : The best we can "give" to the deists is the acknowledgement that if such a beyond-human-comprehension ratio "exists", then we could, we suppose, call it by any name we choose. "God" would be OK althought terribly misleading.
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