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Old 07-18-2005, 05:58 PM
willmay3 willmay3 is offline
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Default Re: Bet AA preflop to reduce the number of callers?

Dear All:

I have a few comments of the thinking out loud variety. I have found this discussion very interesting. I'm going to throw out some ideas I have and would love criticism of them. I think I think thaty are right [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img], but I could be wrong and want to know.

Post Flop Game

I think the real question with Aces is how good is your post flop game. If you are a generally poor player who makes questionable decisions after the flop, I'd say you want to raise coming in to limit the field. The reason being that the less people participating in the pot, the easier, I think, the analysis of the play is, if only it is bet, bet, bet.

However, if you are a strong post flop player, you have no need to limit the field as you thrive on the mistakes of everyone else. The are limping in with garbage or low ev hands trying to hit big and take advantage of the implied odds, but you refuse to pay them off. Sounds like having a good many players, for you, with AA is a good idea.

NL v. Limit

I think you should be more willing to let the competition in in NL than Limit. The reason being, that in NL if a two flush hits you can make a pot sized raise and make that flush pay to see the turn. However, in Limit, your peashooter small bet isn't scaring anyone, especially in an 8 hand pot! You want to raise coming in in limit to absolutely destroy the pot odds, and by limiting the field, the implied of odds of the small pairs and suited connectors preflop, where you can do that. But, in NL you can do that anytime, so you can affford to do let some people in.

Limping

1. The way people lose money with AA limping is when they do and get 5 callers with NO raise and then they completely overplay their hand post-flop. The object of limping, I think, is to be able to reraise a raise, create dead money, and get a whole pile of money in the pot PREFLOP, where your hand is UNDOUBTEDLY the best. However, if that doesn't work, then you have a whole field chasing you while you are out of position, so tread carefully!

2. If the goal is to win more money, in NL I'm speaking of, I think, generally, the best play is to raise coming in and hope someone has TT or QQ or AKs so that they will raise and then you can RERAISE them. That's the way to get mor money than limp/raising.

Just some thoughts,

Will
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