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Old 07-14-2005, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: RAYMER OUT?!

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detroitplayer would have waited for Kings.. He's not worth a response.. He's a complete mental midget.

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There he is.

Listen, Skippy. If Greg had pushed pre flop with that hand and lost, it would have been a different story. You do know that he pushed post flop, right?

I thought we were supposed to be playing right now. Lets go, and not clog up the board with your inability to read, k?

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Explain the bold part.

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Greg was so low in chips he'd push with almost any two cards and his opponents don't need much of a hand at all to call with. Greg should have known this and picked a better spot since the flop didn't give him a "believable" or scary board to bluff at.

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one more time. So he's down to 250k on the flop...how can you check/fold with enough money for 2 orbits there?

you can't. stop acting like you know how to play MTTs, please.

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If it's between check-folding, and knowing you're going to get called by almost any two cards good enough to open-raise with, then I check-fold there. It's better than going home for the time being. But I guess I wouldn't be able to think that clearly if I was tilting like Greg was either. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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I'd imagine we wouldn't be having the conversation if his opponent held QJ. The fact is hes going to get all-in and if he does it preflop the guy calls with aything.

Sure he would have preferred a better flop, but he didn't get one. He puts in the same chips he could have put in preflop and as it turns out the guy had a pocket-pair and called so the result is exactly the same as pushing preflop. However if the guy had instead had something like QJ and folds on the flop where he would have called preflop, Raymer turns a 55/45 type situation into more like a 65/35 since he is forcing his opponent to hit the flop or call knowing hes a likely a dog. Plus if the other guy ever actually folds something like 55 or ATo, Greg benefits immensely.
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