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You are the one who isn't addressing issues. You haven't addressed the chip leader stalling issue at all which is highly, highly relevant. You haven't addressed people playing for media time, which is becoming more common. You haven't addressed the negative impact to the other players at the table. You haven't addressed what the game is like if everyone plays time games like this or the consquences of people calling clock regularly to prevent it. If it's ok for people to try to manipulate the time rules for their own advantage all of the above strategies are just as strategically viable as what Trumper did. The only generally accepted exception to deciding your action in a timely fashion was facing a difficult decision but once you open the door to what Trumper did, you can't say the other ways of getting trying to gain advantage are not any different.

The time of all the other players being wasted is why the cell phone rule was implemented, codification of time management of the table was necessary because some players were wasting other players time, this is more of the same crap.

Anyone who regularly takes up more than is necessary is negatively impacting the other players at the table, not just your opponent. Pretending to have a difficult decision when you don't is doing exactly that. A highly aggressive blind stealer who excessively drags out the drama when he's caught raising with 9-6 offsuit when a Dan Harrington type comes over the top is doing exactly the same thing, 5-15 seconds, the regularly accepted time to make a decision isn't the same as taking 2 minutes but you're trying to compare them when there is nothing in common.

People playing lots of hands has no relevance whatsoever, it's only relevant if they waste time during the hand.

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If you only do it when you have a tough decision, that is a huge leak. In other words, that's the equivalent of saying "I have a tough decision" whenever you do it. To put it in even smaller words for you, "that's why simon did it--he was pretending to have a tough decision".

It got him the chips, it's completely allowed (not to mention necessary for every single person who doesn't want to be easily read for a tough decision when he stops to truly think hard), and this thread is pretty silly.

Oh, hang on a minute--following my own analysis, I should just be happy that PP and Barry can convince you clowns to only pause when you're really thinking, since it will help all of us non-charitable types... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]