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Kerry could have made a mistake in his recollection about Nixon on the radio, which is different than a lie. He could also have been lying, but my guess is it was a stupid mistake, because obviously someone was going to easily discover the timing problem.
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Kerry spent four months in combat at Vietnam (the shortest combat stint on any swift boat veteran). Nixon was not president during those four months. He lied.....

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Reread my post. I said he might have lied. But he could have heard Nixon on the radio before Nixon was President, right? But my main point was that even if he did lie, it doesn't lead to a conclusion that the left traditionally lies for political gains as their first priority.

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You completely ignored Kennedy's quagmire statement in your last two posts; I guess you are conceding that you and many conservatives with liberal-bashing agendas were unfair with that criticism.
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The leaders of the left say so many unpatriotic and untrue statements that it would be a full time job to answer to each one. Kennedy claimed the elections in Iraq would not happen. They did and were very successful. The next step is the drafting on their constitution. Then a second round of elections. One Iraqi leader said another two years of security provided by American troops should be enough. Sounds like steady progress is being made to me. Kennedy is using binoculars to read a newspaper.

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Who's asking you to go through every supposed unpatriotic statement spoken by Kennedy or anyone else? My point, again, was that Kennedy was not inaccurate in calling Iraq a quagmire, which is exactly what the Bush administration has been calling it (using words with the same meaning).

As for your latest points about Kennedy making predictions that did not come true, you are correct. But that's not what I was criticizing you about at all. And besides, the Bush administration has made many incorrect predictions about the Iraq war as well. So if you are suggesting that Kennedy's poor predictions are somehow "unpatriotic and untrue", then you must call the Bush adminstration "unpatriotic and untrue" as well.

-ptmusic