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Old 06-28-2005, 11:53 PM
Nick M Nick M is offline
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Default Re: Low Ceiling vs High Ceiling-SNG strategy(long)

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No way to get around variance no matter how you play. Some forms have lesser varians, other more variance.

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in my post I actually said this.

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This is where you can DEFEND against variance.

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i also replied to another question about this saying

In my post I write...


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You don't just get to play your cards, you can play your opponents cards and take EV that does not belong to you. High Ceiling play has range. It doesn't just steal blinds it steals POTS. Low Ceiling takes EV that does not belong to you sure, the blinds. But High Ceiling is involved in the action and can take advantage of the action.


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I probably should have been more specific. What I say here is variance is determined comepletely and totally by losing hands. If you never lose a hand there will be no variance. That means that if you can take pots that you would otherwise lose if you should down, you're defending against variance. I think LC preflop defends against variance because you steal blinds. Blinds that you can win without having the best hand. But like I said in my post, HC play takes not just blinds, when you switch to LC, but it takes POTS.


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This makes no sense to me. At any given situation in any form of poker, there's one move that has the most EV. It's the move that make you the most money in this and every future hand. How can you get more EV than max EV?


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yes there is one move that makes you the most EV possible. I agree. I am just saying a lot of those don't happen pre flop


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Don't get this either. It's +EV to steal blinds. I know that and therefor the EV belongs to me.


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What I mean by EV that doesn't belong to me is EV won with the worst hand. Obvioulsy $EV can never be won by you with the worst hand.


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And ROI is never unlimited in any game. It is impossible. Unlimited ROI would mean you're getting infinite odds (obviously a good bet)


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in my post I write this.

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But what is the defense for a non set strategy???? High Ceiling play has no set defense. This is why ROI is unlimited...well in a sense. You could win every single SNG you play, that's the limit ahhaaha. But you understand.

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ROI is unlimited up to the point you are winning every single SNG. This is what I mean by unlimited.


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A move you make that is against all books, but that you make based on instinct and feeling, can still be mathematically proven to be the correct move.

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this is completely untrue. A play that makes your opponent THINK he has the worst hand, has absolutely nothing to do with Math.
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