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Old 06-27-2005, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: check or bet

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">CO ($2167.72)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button ($1843)</font>
SB ($1325)
BB ($1107)
UTG ($3181.44)
UTG+1 ($1427)
MP1 ($6271.94)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($3837.68)</font>
MP3 ($1998.72)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $80</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $80, Button calls $80, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($270) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $175</font>, CO calls $175, Button calls $175.

Turn: ($795) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

River: ($795) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>


My default is to check since I'm probably only going to be called/raised by the flush by at least one of these players. But the CO is a total donk, he doubled me up a few hands ago preflop all in AQ vs 33 (side info: He minraised UTG the whole table called, I raised out of the blind, he minraised, I pushed, he called. His minraises weren't real hands). He plays too loose and too passive for his looseness when he isn't leading the action Button has done some donktastic things in small pots, and is generally quiet...

Edit: If you check, do you call a bet, and if so, how much?

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I can see some possible value to betting on the river, although I think a check is probably better with these opponents. If you bet say 1/4 of the pot and fold to a raise, that might be better than checking and calling a bet of 1/2 the pot on the end, as an example.

It seems highly likely that one of them has a flush given the 2 calls on the flop and that both players checked behind on the turn (seeming to make a draw more likely). I would probably check and call a small river bet. I didn't get the impression that these players were especially good or likely to bluff the river, so if there was a big river bet folding is probably best.
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