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Two looser limpers, Button raises, SB folds, you're in the BB -- that's not 5:1. If you call it'll generally be 7.5:1, since the pot will be 4-ways (8.5SB) and you're calling off 1SB. I'd call with either of those hands. I'm not calling with T5s, FWIW, though, so T6s is certainly close.

I'm more likely to call when any of the players are likely to overplay their hands postflop. The better the players involved are, the more rigid my standards are.

Rob

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D'oh! I'm pretty tired this afternoon... It's showing.

You're right about the pot odds being sweeter.

Any idea what the odds are to flop a four-flush though?

(And I didn't miss what you said about how well they play either...)

--Dave.

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8.1:1 of flopping a flush draw, 118:1 of flopping a flush.

You've also got straight potential with both of those hands and the obvious pair/2pr outs.

Rob