[templar999]

Rosie,

with all due respect, if you're getting frustrated by the loose players at low limits at this game, then O/8 is probably not the game for you, because frankly, unless you're a superstar, there is no way to win at this game if the players are tight. the proliferation of loose play is what makes O/8 so great.

i'm also assuming you're playing online. in the live games, it is not uncommon to see 6 players goto a flop for 2 bets each. in fact, it's a rarity when there are less than 4 players seeing a flop.

when the whole table is seeing every flop, you beat it by:
1. being content with half the pot, or even a quarter,
2. being content with a big scoop once an hour,
3. being prepared to fold every hand on the flop that has no chance of scooping, and finally, not to sound stupid or condescending,
4. being prepared for bad beats.

please realize that if 4 opponents are with you on the river, chances are better than good that one of them drew out on you. as a collective, the school of fish are not really putting bad beats on you. in fact, you may be an underdog against the field.

hang in there.

respectfully,
temp