Re: lurker request; DERB update!
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I don't understand your point. Yes, their hand range is wider if they are looser preflop, but you simply adjust for that fact postflop and <b> make the optimal play, given their expanded hand range. </b> They are making mistakes preflop, and I don't see how they can make up for that fact simply because you are unused to making the adjustment for their looseness. <b>Especially since there are plenty of loose players preflop in these games so you indeed are used to adjusting for preflop looseness</b>....
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My point is that it is much more difficult to make a reasonable guess at what the optimal play is if the range of hands is wider. Its a fairly simple concept. The fact that I kill loose players that are bad postflop helps me little when attempting to assess the optimal play against a loose player who plays very well postflop. If I have some time, I'll try to post some actual hands that illustrate my point a little better.
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