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Old 06-10-2005, 03:09 AM
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Default Folding a PP to overcards - weak or just right?

I folded both of these hands, where both an A and K fell on the flop over my pocket pair. Does anyone call or raise instead?

In hand 1, the button is a typical bad 5/10 player (40/10/~1) and UTG is just a loose idiot.

Hand 1

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, UTG calls, Hero folds.

For Hand 2, BB is kinda passive (29/6/1) over not many hands. Hadn't seen him do anything crazy yet. SB another loose-passive type.

Hand 2

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds, SB calls.

In both hands, the Ace and King scared me off. Hand 1 was especially worrying with the UTG cold-calling on the flop. In any case, just checking to see if people think these folds are weak.
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