Re: Interpoker justice
If were gonna tell a story about how you found a miracle Q on the river lets tell it the way it happened.
The hand in question:
Game #661909273: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/21 - 03:07:51 (ET)
Table "Mobile" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: tamthebam ($62 in chips)
Seat 2: TechManPK ($17 in chips)
Seat 3: Tkaaa ($14.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Resumeman ($84.25 in chips)
Seat 5: bigpete75 ($37.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Tometome ($31 in chips)
Seat 7: .grimel ($39 in chips)
Seat 8: DoTaSh ($49 in chips)
Seat 9: _alex_ ($15 in chips)
Seat 10: dabrd ($42.25 in chips)
.grimel: posts small blind $0.50
DoTaSh: posts big blind $1
bigpete75: posts big blind $1 + posts small blind $0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Tkaaa [Ac Ad]
_alex_: folds
dabrd: folds
tamthebam: calls $1
TechManPK: calls $1
Tkaaa: raises $2
Resumeman: folds
bigpete75: raises $2
Tometome: folds
.grimel: calls $2.50
DoTaSh: folds
tamthebam: calls $2
TechManPK: folds
Tkaaa: raises $2
bigpete75: calls $1
.grimel: calls $1
tamthebam: calls $1
----- FLOP ----- [3c 8h 7s]
.grimel: checks
tamthebam: checks
Tkaaa: bets $1
bigpete75: raises $2
.grimel: calls $2
tamthebam: calls $2
Tkaaa: raises $2
bigpete75: calls $1
.grimel: calls $1
tamthebam: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [3c 8h 7s][Tc]
.grimel: checks
tamthebam: checks
Tkaaa: bets $2
bigpete75: folds
.grimel: calls $2
tamthebam: calls $2
----- RIVER ----- [3c 8h 7s Tc][Qh]
.grimel: bets $2
tamthebam: folds
Tkaaa: calls $2
----- SHOW DOWN -----
.grimel: shows [Qd Qc] (Three of a kind, Queens, Ten high)
Tkaaa: mucks hand
.grimel collected $38.50 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $40.50 Main pot $38.50 Rake $2
Board [3c 8h 7s Tc Qh]
Seat 1: tamthebam folded on the River
Seat 2: TechManPK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Tkaaa mucked
Seat 4: Resumeman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bigpete75 (big blind + small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: Tometome (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: .grimel (small blind) showed [Qd Qc] and won ($38.50) with Three of a kind, Queens, Ten high
Seat 8: DoTaSh (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: _alex_ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: dabrd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Then the following hand where I was again, "out of line":
Game #661911203: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/21 - 03:10:29 (ET)
Table "Mobile" Seat 7 is the button.
Seat 1: tamthebam ($53 in chips)
Seat 2: TechManPK ($16 in chips)
Seat 3: Tkaaa ($3.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Resumeman ($84.25 in chips)
Seat 5: bigpete75 ($30.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Tometome ($31 in chips)
Seat 7: .grimel ($66.50 in chips)
Seat 8: DoTaSh ($48 in chips)
Seat 9: _alex_ ($15 in chips)
Seat 10: dabrd ($42.25 in chips)
DoTaSh: posts small blind $0.50
_alex_: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Tkaaa [Ac Ks]
dabrd: calls $1
tamthebam: calls $1
TechManPK: folds
Tkaaa: raises $2
Resumeman: folds
bigpete75: calls $2
Tometome: folds
.grimel: folds
DoTaSh: folds
_alex_: folds
dabrd: calls $1
tamthebam: calls $1
----- FLOP ----- [7d Kh Jc]
dabrd: checks
tamthebam: checks
Tkaaa: bets $1
bigpete75: calls $1
dabrd: calls $1
tamthebam: folds
----- TURN ----- [7d Kh Jc][Td]
dabrd: checks
Tkaaa: checks
bigpete75: bets $2
dabrd: folds
Tkaaa: is all-in $0.50
Returned uncalled bets $1.50 to bigpete75
----- RIVER ----- [7d Kh Jc Td][Ad]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
bigpete75: shows [As Qs] (A Straight, Ace high)
Tkaaa: shows [Ac Ks] (Two Pairs, Aces and Kings, Jack high)
bigpete75 collected $13 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $13.50 Main pot $13 Rake $0.50
Board [7d Kh Jc Td Ad]
Seat 1: tamthebam folded on the Flop
Seat 2: TechManPK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Resumeman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bigpete75 showed [As Qs] and won ($13) with A Straight, Ace high
Seat 6: Tometome folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: .grimel (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DoTaSh (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: _alex_ (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: dabrd folded on the Turn
And just for fun how about the 6 hands before hand that I raised and reraised to the river. Incase you forgot I folded 5 of them preflop and folded the 6th on the turn and put not a single bet or raise in on any of those hands on any street:
Game #661906623: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/21 - 03:06:34 (ET)
Table "Mobile" Seat 4 is the button.
Seat 1: tamthebam ($63 in chips)
Seat 2: TechManPK ($18 in chips)
Seat 3: Tkaaa ($14.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Resumeman ($84.25 in chips)
Seat 5: bigpete75 ($37.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Tometome ($26.25 in chips)
Seat 7: .grimel ($42 in chips)
Seat 8: DoTaSh ($49 in chips)
Seat 9: _alex_ ($15 in chips)
Seat 10: dabrd ($42.25 in chips)
Tometome: posts small blind $0.50
.grimel: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Tkaaa [4h 8s]
DoTaSh: folds
_alex_: folds
dabrd: folds
tamthebam: calls $1
TechManPK: calls $1
Tkaaa: folds
Resumeman: folds
Tometome: calls $0.50
.grimel: checks
----- FLOP ----- [Jh 9s 9h]
Tometome: checks
.grimel: checks
tamthebam: checks
TechManPK: checks
----- TURN ----- [Jh 9s 9h][Ks]
Tometome: bets $2
.grimel: calls $2
tamthebam: folds
TechManPK: folds
----- RIVER ----- [Jh 9s 9h Ks][2s]
Tometome: checks
.grimel: checks
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Tometome: shows [Kh 9d] (A Full House, Nines full of Kings)
.grimel: mucks hand
Tometome collected $7.75 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $8 Main pot $7.75 Rake $0.25
Board [Jh 9s 9h Ks 2s]
Seat 1: tamthebam folded on the Turn
Seat 2: TechManPK folded on the Turn
Seat 3: Tkaaa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Resumeman (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Tometome (small blind) showed [Kh 9d] and won ($7.75) with A Full House, Nines full of Kings
Seat 7: .grimel (big blind) mucked
Seat 8: DoTaSh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: _alex_ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: dabrd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Game #661904833: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/21 - 03:04:54 (ET)
Table "Mobile" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: tamthebam ($65 in chips)
Seat 2: TechManPK ($19 in chips)
Seat 3: Tkaaa ($14.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Resumeman ($79.50 in chips)
Seat 5: bigpete75 ($37.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Tometome ($27.25 in chips)
Seat 7: .grimel ($42 in chips)
Seat 8: DoTaSh ($49 in chips)
Seat 9: _alex_ ($15 in chips)
Seat 10: dabrd ($43.25 in chips)
Resumeman: posts small blind $0.50
bigpete75 sits out
Tometome: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Tkaaa [3c 6c]
.grimel: folds
DoTaSh: folds
_alex_: folds
dabrd: calls $1
tamthebam: calls $1
TechManPK: calls $1
Tkaaa: folds
Resumeman: calls $0.50
Tometome: checks
----- FLOP ----- [2c Ah Ac]
Resumeman: bets $1
Tometome: folds
dabrd: folds
tamthebam: calls $1
TechManPK: folds
----- TURN ----- [2c Ah Ac][8c]
bigpete75 sits back
Resumeman: bets $2
tamthebam: folds
Returned uncalled bets $2 to Resumeman
Resumeman: doesn't show hand
Resumeman collected $6.75 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $7 Main pot $6.75 Rake $0.25
Board [2c Ah Ac 8c]
Seat 1: tamthebam folded on the Turn
Seat 2: TechManPK folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Tkaaa (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Resumeman (small blind) collected $6.75
Seat 6: Tometome (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: .grimel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DoTaSh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: _alex_ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: dabrd folded on the Flop
Game #661901303: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/21 - 03:03:41 (ET)
Table "Mobile" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 1: tamthebam ($67 in chips)
Seat 2: TechManPK ($19 in chips)
Seat 3: Tkaaa ($15 in chips)
Seat 4: Resumeman ($81.50 in chips)
Seat 5: bigpete75 ($37.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Tometome ($27.25 in chips)
Seat 7: .grimel ($42 in chips)
Seat 8: DoTaSh ($49 in chips)
Seat 9: _alex_ ($15 in chips)
Seat 10: dabrd ($39 in chips)
Tkaaa: posts small blind $0.50
Resumeman: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Tkaaa [Th 4h]
bigpete75: folds
Tometome: folds
.grimel: folds
DoTaSh: folds
_alex_: folds
dabrd: calls $1
tamthebam: calls $1
TechManPK: folds
Tkaaa: folds
Resumeman: checks
----- FLOP ----- [7h Ac 2c]
Resumeman: bets $1
dabrd: calls $1
tamthebam: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [7h Ac 2c][3c]
Resumeman: checks
dabrd: checks
tamthebam: checks
----- RIVER ----- [7h Ac 2c 3c][Jh]
Resumeman: checks
dabrd: checks
tamthebam: checks
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Resumeman: shows [8c 2h] (A Pair of Twos, Ace high)
dabrd: shows [4c 4d] (A Pair of Fours, Ace high)
tamthebam: mucks hand
dabrd collected $6.25 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $6.50 Main pot $6.25 Rake $0.25
Board [7h Ac 2c 3c Jh]
Seat 1: tamthebam mucked
Seat 2: TechManPK (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Tkaaa (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Resumeman (big blind) lost
Seat 5: bigpete75 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Tometome folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: .grimel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DoTaSh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: _alex_ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: dabrd showed [4c 4d] and won ($6.25) with A Pair of Fours, Ace high
Game #661898983: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/21 - 03:01:28 (ET)
Table "Mobile" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: tamthebam ($71 in chips)
Seat 2: TechManPK ($20 in chips)
Seat 3: Tkaaa ($17 in chips)
Seat 4: Resumeman ($81.50 in chips)
Seat 5: bigpete75 ($37.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Tometome ($16 in chips)
Seat 7: .grimel ($42 in chips)
Seat 8: DoTaSh ($49 in chips)
Seat 9: _alex_ ($19 in chips)
Seat 10: dabrd ($40 in chips)
TechManPK: posts small blind $0.50
Tkaaa: posts big blind $1
dabrd: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Tkaaa [Kh Jd]
Resumeman: folds
bigpete75: folds
Tometome: calls $1
.grimel: folds
DoTaSh: folds
_alex_: calls $1
dabrd: checks
tamthebam: calls $1
TechManPK: calls $0.50
Tkaaa: checks
----- FLOP ----- [Qc Qh Qd]
TechManPK: checks
Tkaaa: checks
Tometome: bets $1
_alex_: calls $1
dabrd: folds
tamthebam: calls $1
TechManPK: folds
Tkaaa: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [Qc Qh Qd][3d]
Tkaaa: checks
Tometome: bets $2
_alex_: calls $2
tamthebam: calls $2
Tkaaa: folds
----- RIVER ----- [Qc Qh Qd 3d][5s]
Tometome: checks
_alex_: checks
tamthebam: checks
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Tometome: shows [5h 5c] (A Full House, Queens full of Fives)
_alex_: mucks hand
tamthebam: mucks hand
Tometome collected $15.25 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $16 Main pot $15.25 Rake $0.75
Board [Qc Qh Qd 3d 5s]
Seat 1: tamthebam (button) mucked
Seat 2: TechManPK (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Tkaaa (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: Resumeman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bigpete75 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Tometome showed [5h 5c] and won ($15.25) with A Full House, Queens full of Fives
Seat 7: .grimel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DoTaSh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: _alex_ mucked
Seat 10: dabrd (big blind) folded on the Flop
Game #661896903: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/21 - 02:59:58 (ET)
Table "Mobile" Seat 9 is the button.
Seat 1: tamthebam ($68 in chips)
Seat 2: TechManPK ($21 in chips)
Seat 3: Tkaaa ($17 in chips)
Seat 4: Resumeman ($81.50 in chips)
Seat 5: bigpete75 ($37.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Tometome ($16 in chips)
Seat 7: .grimel ($42 in chips)
Seat 8: DoTaSh ($50 in chips)
Seat 9: _alex_ ($20 in chips)
Seat 10: dabrd ($40 in chips)
tamthebam: posts small blind $0.50
TechManPK: posts big blind $1
DoTaSh: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Tkaaa [5h 5d]
Tkaaa: folds
Resumeman: folds
bigpete75: folds
Tometome: folds
.grimel: folds
DoTaSh: checks
_alex_: calls $1
tamthebam: calls $0.50
TechManPK: checks
----- FLOP ----- [3c 3d 9h]
tamthebam: checks
TechManPK: checks
DoTaSh: checks
_alex_: checks
----- TURN ----- [3c 3d 9h][8h]
tamthebam: checks
TechManPK: checks
DoTaSh: checks
_alex_: folds
----- RIVER ----- [3c 3d 9h 8h][As]
tamthebam: checks
TechManPK: checks
DoTaSh: checks
----- SHOW DOWN -----
tamthebam: shows [6s Kc] (A Pair of Threes, Ace high)
TechManPK: mucks hand
DoTaSh: mucks hand
tamthebam collected $4 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $4 Main pot $4 Rake $0
Board [3c 3d 9h 8h As]
Seat 1: tamthebam (small blind) showed [6s Kc] and won ($4) with A Pair of Threes, Ace high
Seat 2: TechManPK (big blind) mucked
Seat 3: Tkaaa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Resumeman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bigpete75 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Tometome folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: .grimel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DoTaSh (big blind) mucked
Seat 9: _alex_ (button) folded on the Turn
Game #661895253: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/21 - 02:58:33 (ET)
Table "Mobile" Seat 7 is the button.
Seat 1: tamthebam ($71 in chips)
Seat 2: TechManPK ($22 in chips)
Seat 3: Tkaaa ($17 in chips)
Seat 4: Resumeman ($81.50 in chips)
Seat 5: bigpete75 ($31.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Tometome ($17 in chips)
Seat 7: .grimel ($43 in chips)
Seat 9: _alex_ ($20.50 in chips)
_alex_: posts small blind $0.50
tamthebam: posts big blind $1
Tometome: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Tkaaa [7s 4d]
TechManPK: calls $1
Tkaaa: folds
Resumeman: folds
bigpete75: calls $1
Tometome: checks
.grimel: calls $1
DoTaSh joins the table at seat #8
_alex_: folds
tamthebam: checks
----- FLOP ----- [Ks Qh 5s]
tamthebam: checks
TechManPK: checks
bigpete75: checks
Tometome: checks
.grimel: checks
----- TURN ----- [Ks Qh 5s][4c]
dabrd joins the table at seat #10
tamthebam: checks
TechManPK: checks
bigpete75: bets $2
Tometome: folds
.grimel: folds
tamthebam: calls $2
TechManPK: folds
----- RIVER ----- [Ks Qh 5s 4c][3s]
tamthebam: checks
bigpete75: checks
----- SHOW DOWN -----
tamthebam: shows [4h 6h] (A Pair of Fours, King high)
bigpete75: shows [7d 7c] (A Pair of Sevens, King high)
bigpete75 collected $9.25 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $9.50 Main pot $9.25 Rake $0.25
Board [Ks Qh 5s 4c 3s]
Seat 1: tamthebam (big blind) lost
Seat 2: TechManPK folded on the Turn
Seat 3: Tkaaa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Resumeman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bigpete75 showed [7d 7c] and won ($9.25) with A Pair of Sevens, King high
Seat 6: Tometome (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: .grimel (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 9: _alex_ (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
I believe the dialog went something like this:
Tkaaa: WOW
Tkaaa: A 2 outer unbelievable
Tkaaa: You had to know there was 2 aces staring you in the face
.grimel: I had odds to draw to it cause the pot was so big
Tkaaa: lol OK
Dialog after the last hand:
Tkaaa: Guess after that its time for me to go
Tkaaa: gl all
By my math a 2 outer is 22 to 1 to come in. Im not sure what street you were getting 22 to 1 on.
Flop: 10.75 to 1
Turn: 16.25 to 1
While Im not trying to say you shouldnt play QQ you certianly didnt have odds to draw to 2 outs like you tried to explain to me.
In closing, so we all know that your account was not only false about your read on me, we'll throw in your stats as well.
.grimel SL/P/P 23.68/3.24/0.67
Tkaaa T/A/A 16.42/6.81/2.36
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