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Old 05-20-2005, 04:39 PM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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Default Re: Is Villain a maniac?

Thanks for your post. It’s time for me to come clean - I'm the Jackass Villain.

** That's NOT the payment I was looking for. Nor do I think you're a jackass- I think you made an incorrect play/comment.
This specifically is what I was referring to with my logic process comment:
"Villain claimed that semi-bluffing to run up the pot gave him better than correct odds to stick around." (and I'll include this followup statement "I put him on a big pocket pair and decided to jam the pot with the hopes of a river suck-out")

1) You can't semi-bluff if there is no chance of everyone folding. They're not betting into this flop without something to stick around with.

2) There are WAY too many cards that could come out that make your gutshot NOT the ideal suckout hand. This is especially true for limit, where you have no implied odds for this type of play. NL is another matter.

" I jokingly said to Hero that I jammed the pot to get the right odds. He didn’t buy it for a second and knew that I just did it to irritate him. " **I deem you less of an idiot now :P

"I honestly had no idea what the pot odds were – I wasn’t even counting bets. But then I got to thinking, what would be the correct time to make the gutshot call in this game? "

** You'd need a bigger field to give you the odds, and after the flop and turn, your odds are considerably worse (pot- and drawing-odds).

Raising the turn to represent the Ace is fine, if you don't put limper on an Ace. This is especially true because it can only cost you a few bets, rather than your whole stack.
Is your play that crazy normally that the Queens thought he was value-betting the river?

"I also did it to hear people make fun of our play and say that the Villain was an idiot. My wish came true."

** That's me, the wish-fulfiller
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