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Old 05-20-2005, 03:33 PM
kurto kurto is offline
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Default Re: What the Newsweek Farce Was Supposed To Distract Us From

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1) This is not an entire story. It is one alleged account from a "confidential Army report"...

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It is not 'alleged' according to the report. Its a 2000 page report. Sounds to me like its been thoroughly investigated.

Odd how you try to dismiss it.

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I understand it isn't the only report of its kind,

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True. There have been reports of abuse in Afghanistan, Iraq and Guantanamo. On top of that, We have Bush sending prisoners to countries who are even looser with the torture. Bush wanted to be allowed to torture people. He had his counsel look into it. There is a pattern here.

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but to all the anti-war people here who fail to see reason

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That is so bizarre. You could be pro-war and against torture. And what do you mean 'fail to see reason?'

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and only wish to smear and defile

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To borrow your train of thought...
I understand it isn't the only report of its kind, but to all Bush apologists here who fail to see reason and only wish to excuse everything horrendous that happens under this administration, think about it for a second: Bush asked to get around the Geneva Conventions, he argued for torture, in every sphere where we have prisoners (Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo) there have reports of abuse... not by individuals in secret; by interrogators in front of guards, in front of their superiors, in front of ANYONE who wandered by... their behaviour was accepted and condoned. This has happened repeatedly in multiple locations. Why do the Bush apologists feel that this is insignificant?

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Its there to get readership, readership that its losing.

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So, a newspaper is trying to drum up readership by printing NEWS verified by a MILITARY REPORT. How scandalous! A newspaper printing NEWS to get readers.

Every newstory of wrongdoing is some sort of scandal/conspiracy. Why can't a neocon ever just accept that its news. And that it means what it means?

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But even if this story is entirely true, consider that actions like this are the exception, rather than the rule.

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How do you know? There have been reports that this has been happening for years. According to the Red Cross, they warned the US years ago that the 'Koran' abuse was widespread and likely to lead to problems Internationally if it got out. They were concerned because it was NOT isolated.

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Divisiveness is your goal and you're well on your way, but think about things for a few minutes before just posting everything you can think of to attempt to attack the "other side".

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Rathar then assume everything is an attack and wrong, why don't YOU think about things. Like perhaps there's a problem with the military where they're torturing prisoners? Why don't you consider that there are problems out there that need addressing. Instead of turning everything into something partisan, you could just think. Maybe there's a problem that needs fixing.
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