[MTBlue]

You're just being dumb. I want the guy to call me with three-outer for 60 bucks on the turn. Its basically 14:1 against him making it. He needs to make 840 dollars to make the call correct. As for getting sucked out on, if you bet the pot on the turn and don't pay off on the river, they will never have correct odds with anything less than 14 outs. Yes I agree that calling big raises out of blinds with kq is not smart, but the real money is won or lost on the turn or the river. Variance isn't that important if you're not properly bankrolled move down. Quit being a whiny bitch and try to learn something. The argument that this is how I've always done it so this is how it's done is completely fatuous. Take a step back and learn from your mistakes. Your overbet is only profitable is your friend is willing to call with jj-22, but most players will only call with a q or a full house, maybe AA.