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Old 05-08-2005, 03:43 AM
BZ_Zorro BZ_Zorro is offline
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Default Implied value and draws

Does implied value make it ok to call a pot sized bet on a draw?

Just had a conversation with a marine who said it was...he ended up threatening to "talk to his IT buddies" and get me drafted. Neither or us is giving a quarter, so we're gonna let the experts decide. He wanted to bet me $100 that your opinion would be in favor of him, but said to forget it later on.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

UTG+1 ($109.6)
UTG+2 ($221.97)
MP1 ($68.5)
Hero ($87.5)
MP3 ($176.02)
CO ($98.5)
Button ($145.3)
SB ($177.8)
BB ($83.1)
UTG ($103.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1, MP3 calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3</font>, UTG+1 calls $3, Hero calls $3, MP3 calls $3, SB folds.

Flop: ($17) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, MP3 folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $15.

Turn: ($47) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero goes all in, UTG+1 calls $68.50.

River: ($115.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $115.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 has 9s Ts (straight, ten high).
Hero has 6h 6d (full house, sixes full of sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins $115.50. </font>

Two questions:
Is calling a pot sized bet with his hand a good play?
If he somehow expected me to go all in on the turn, was it a good play?
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