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Old 05-02-2005, 04:57 PM
warlockjd warlockjd is offline
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Default 2+2 article is all wrong? Deception in NL hold em.

http://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/c...risse0505.html

I do not get this article at all. In fact, I disagree with most of it's premises, logic, and conlcusions. I tried to get some responses in the Magazine forum without success.

I am now pasting my response below

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I disagree with this article almost entirely.

For some perspective, I play 6 max $400 NL on Party ($2/4 blinds). If I have a weak hand, I am betting strongly; If I have a medium hand, I am betting strongly; If I have a monster, I am betting strongly; If I have a gutshot with position, I am betting strongly. If I decide to bluff, I am bluffing strongly.

Anyone with me here? Perhaps this is just a more 6 max view, or perhaps I have a lot to learn. I am interested in others' viewpoints.


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Also, here is a response from fimbulwinter:

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just a few gems:




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I cannot begin to imagine how slow playing could ever be "catastrophic," especially in no-limit, where there's plenty of time to get your opponents' chips in the middle.


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More than anything though, it's critical that we not deceive ourselves into thinking that straightforward play is preferable in these games.


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Your opponents will always be guessing, and the more they guess, the more often they guess wrongly.


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this article is one of the worst i've seen in the magazine yet. the whole thing sounds like the advice losing players give one another while at the table.

the very definition of a soft game is that the players don't know the proper plays. only when the players know about and make those proper plays should suboptimal plays be employed for the sake of deception.

fim


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I am hoping to get a discussion going here.
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