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Old 04-21-2005, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Are high cards overrated?

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EV calculation based on who wins the pot are a good start and very helpful, but miss some key bits from real play. Namely, they don’t measure how much you win when you win, and how much you lose when you lose.

Hands like KQJTs that hit a good flop tend to be in clearly defined positions with strong scooping potential and opponents with low hands that can’t play well. So if you were to calculate $ returned per postflop bet, they would likely do quite well

Whereas hands like 3456s might have good Wilson showdown value, but in actual game play will a) rarely be in confident positions that they can value bet in, b) rarely be more to bet aggressively to get others to fold better hands, c) often be picking up half-pots instead of scooping, which are much less profitable.

--Greg

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Greg, I'm not sure what you meant about the Wilson showdowns, but Boston's simulations are not simply showdown statistics with no betting. Its based on a 10/20 tough lineup on Wilson software playing simulated poker.
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