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Old 04-13-2005, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: High Level Thinking Party 2-4 NL Hand

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If your reads can tell you with a fairly high degree of certainty that:

1) you are not up against Kx clubs or Qx clubs
2) after you call for the second time on the flop the other player will reraise
3) you are not up against a straight flush draw

if all of those are fairly true in your mind then you played correctly.

at first i only had 1 and 2 and thought you played it right (because a read fulfilling both would be quite possible). but after further analysis i had to include 3. i dont believe you could have gotten a read such that you knew all 1, 2, and 3 were correct. as such i think you should fold after the two reraises (after you had only called once on the flop).

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I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about with #3. The only possible straight flush draws on the flop are the gutshots, 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Why would I be afraid of these hands being out against me?

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I didn't say OESFD just a straight flush draw. I probably should have specified that 3 wouldn't be too much of a problem if you knew that the other player would have something weak like AK. Thats very unlikely though in my mind. I was making my calcs with the assumption that one of them had a set. If one had a set and the other had something like 34cc your equity in the hand isn't enough to stay in.
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