[fyodor]

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Also, the pot is not 22 bb on the turn, but there is certainly a chance I am raising for a free showdown.
-James

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No. What I meant was if I am behind (which is most likely) then I am 22:1 to improve.

Against an unknown or a fish or something then it is an easy call down. In the scenario described though, I know who you are, and have to think either you are trying to bluff me completely, or you think I am trying to bluff you completely, or you just have me beat, or I am depending on the very thin chance you have JJ.

If I don't improve on the river, and you bet again after I called your turn raise, and I know you know I know the aproximate percentage of times you will be bluffing, QQ is in very rough shape.