Thread: Limit SNGs
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Old 04-08-2005, 09:09 PM
GrekeHaus GrekeHaus is offline
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Default Re: Limit SNGs

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Yes, if you've played 20-30 LHE STTs and can't spot enough poor play to take advantage of, then you should quit poker.

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For the record, all but 2 of these were played last summer or before (only 1 was played at the time of my original post). As you're aware, I've made a rather substantial breakthrough with my play since then. I was having these questions back then and thought it would be interesting to address the issue here.

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Any situation in a zero-sum game (ignoring rake, [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] )against players who you can out think and make 'better' decisions than will be +EV. I find it *very* hard to believe you are truly questioning your ability to make better decisions in these low buyin limit HE STTs...

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I never questioned this ability. I only questioned whether or not this difference was enough to beat the rake. Hands like this just make me feel like I have way more than enough edge:

Party Poker Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind t200 (6 handed) converter

BB (t1245)
UTG (t390)
MP (t2255)
CO (t380)
Button (t2330)
Hero (t1400)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls.

Flop: (5 SB, t1000) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB, t1400) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (5.50 BB, t2200) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: 5.5 BB (t2200)

Results:
Button has Kd Qh (straight, ace high).
Hero has Ac Kc (two pair, aces and jacks).
Outcome: Button wins 5.50 BB (t2200).

Yes, it is hands like this (nothing like calling off 2/3 of your stack on a gutshot) as well as this thread that have convinced me that I have more than enough edge to get a solid return from these games. Though I would still be curious to investigate the issues of ROI and ITM moe thouroughly and compare them to the NL SNGs.
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