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Old 04-08-2005, 12:08 AM
Moozh Moozh is offline
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Default Re: Check/call, check/call, bet line w/JJ

It seems so common around here that people read posts without trying to think through the real logic behind the advice given.

Check call, check call, bet is becomming a popular line around here, but how many people really understand why it's used?

The check-calls are done for two main reasons, first to keep an unmade hand betting. Second, to get to showdown cheaply against a hand that you may have an advantage against. Ok, so why do we bet the river? This is to keep a worse made hand from checking behind. I emphasize made because unimproved hands are often not going to call the river, so it's only a good value bet if you're against a hand that is worse than yours, but can still call.

That is not the case here. What hands 3-bet? AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, AK, and maaaabye AQ. On this flop, you lose to everything aside from AQ and tie with JJ. Maybe you'll be lucky and be up against an 88 or 99, but then with the river, you lose to 99 too. The ONLY hand you can beat is AQ, and there's no way AQ is calling a river bet on that board. Thus, if you want to see the showdown, check and call.
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