Stephan, I'm going to repost msot of what I said at the TH-P.com forum, in case 2+2'ers don't make it over there:
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Although it appears on the surface that you are trying to undermine the Paulson group buy, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and consider your post a true concern for the buyers.
Here are my thoughts:
Just about every point you make is wrong. Here are the facts/rebuttals about my last Egyptian group buy, AND about the new Pharaoh's Club Paulson group buy:
* Motivation
All members get a great price, and pride in participating in (and owning a set with) a unique design
* Why are group buy posts are allowed?
These posts are allowed probably because they are a SERVICE to members.
* Giving money to a stranger, cash only, no returns, defective product etc
I will going through a retail distributor with my new Paulson group buy just as I did with the Egyptians.
http://HoldemPokerChips.com did a wonderful job on my last group buy. They are courteous, helpful, trustworthy, and the owner is also a contributing poster on this and other forums. I challenge you to find A SINGLE BUYER in my group buys who disagrees.
http://HoldemPokerChips.com provided safe credit card sales, returnable product, and an extended buy period at original prices. Shipping is insured, well packed, and guaranteed with prompt tracking updates. This negates all of your points.
I haven't chosen a distributor yet for the Pharaoh's Club group buy, and you were actually on my list of calls to make once my order hit 50,000 units. I can now see that's one less call I need to make since it appears you are completely against this type of group buy.
* Little say over the design?
You must not have followed my countless design posts on 2+2. The support and participation was enormous. On every stage of the chip design I posted photos and polls, and took all suggestions into consideration prior to making the final decision. I think everyone involved shared in my pride that we created a unique design that is well recieved everywhere in the poker chip community.
* Assuming the risk of a fraudulent group buy
Stephan, I think it was dispicable to single me out, when I've organized the biggest, safest group buy ever. And planning to top
that one with the new Paulson group buy. I take offense as on behalf of myself and to the proprietor of HoldemPokerChips.com.
With sales being made by ESCROW in my first buy, and credit card sales in the second, how can you even consider this accusation?
* On top of you being wrong about all of those things, the most important point is that we GOT A BETTER PRICE! Try buying 1000 Chipco custom chips by yourself with a different design on each chip. You'll pay WELL over $2000 for those chips.
There. I said it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Greg Cagle
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