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I was really waiting for someone to break out the pokertracker/playerview cheat before I came into this thread.

Anyone who thinks that manipulating a deck of cards is any different than using a freakin' COMPUTER to track your opponents play and put hard, cold numbers within an eye-flick of the current action is fooling themself. The act is different, the result is the same... cheater gets the money.

If you're going to draw the line at mechanical manipulation then using a computer to gain an information edge is on the wrong side of moral. If you're going to play a square game, take the computer out of the equation.

I will personally continue to cheat like hell when it comes to pokertracker/playerview. I'm not going to fool myself into thinking that it's just "an extension of my memory" or "it's freely available to everyone". Lets face it, anyone with ambition and a little aptitude could learn how to cheat with a deck of cards or by capping chips or whatever.