[derick]

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If the average Ontario 2/5 pot is $20, that's a $2 rake* on average

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This assumption is retarded. If the average pot size at your table is 4BB, you need to get up and move.

At a 5/10 table, 8BB is probably a more accurate average pot size, in which case you're always getting capped at the $5 rake. Add in an extra dollar per pot for the dealer, and that's $600 per 100 hands. My PT stats say I win about 6% of all hands I'm dealt, which means I pay $36/100 in rake. That's 3.6BB/100.

Again checking PT, I paid Party about 3BB/100 in rake. That's a B&M premium of 0.6BB/100, and should be beatable by a good player.

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Thanks for the reply,

So for 2/5 if we use your numbers of 8 BB/hand and 6% win we get.

Rake / 100 hands => 80BB/100 hands * 6% => 4.8 BB/100

Toke $6/100 hands => 1.2 BB/100

Rake + Toke = 4.8 + 1.2 = 6 BB/100

For pots of 8 BB 2/5 is about 3 BB/100 tougher than Party and 2.4 BB/100 tougher than 5/10.

2/5 has a cap of $5.

For Capped 2/5 pots: if you see 6% of hands you pay 6 BB/100.
Plus 1.2 BB/100 toke => 7.2 BB/100.

So I wonder if anyone is winning at 2/5 long term?

Is anyone out there beating 2/5 long term?

Or do better players all go to 5/10 and up?

The 2/5 players are truly dreadful but I wonder if you can make money with a 6->7.2 BB/100 rake. And if you can make money at 2/5 you should probably be playing 5/10?

Derick