[DeeJ]

Well, the chance of anyone holding exactly 2 clubs is less than 6%. So the chance any of 4 the players holding 2 clubs at the flop is not a long way from 25%. And since nobody seems to have 99 or better with no preflop raises, I reckon I'm the best hand here far more often than I'm not.

But sure, I am vulnerable, so I'm raising to get rid of weaker draws although anyone with a club isn't going anywhere yes. But the club is only coming 1/3 of the time.

EDIT I am talking about the flop, you are talking about the turn? Same point applies, except my real question is the poll question (raise call or fold). If you're raising, it might blow out CO. If you're folding, you might lose the boat-fill-up possibility. If you're calling, you might be -EV to someone who already has a boat or nut flush... that's the nub of it.