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4th best? Certainly not in a 10max ring game. Dont know the exact order but it is something like AA, KK, AKs, QQ, AKo, AQs, JJ.

JJ is horrible becuase it is just high enough to hold its own but if a A or K flops you have to tread carefully

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I'll take JJ over AQs anyday.

Anyway, my stats w/JJ: 56% winning over the last 20k hands, 1.28bb/hand.

Folks, you have got to stop treating preflop hands like they are the solution for your postflop problems. JJ isn't the problem most of the time; the problems is that you guys underplay or overplay them postflop.

The money in this game is made after the flop. Sure, JJ can be a tricky hand to play postflop sometimes. So can AKs, or QQ, or TT, or 99, QJs, KJs, JTs...you get my point.

Oh, and when JJ gets beat, it isn't really getting "cracked." It's a damned good hand, but it isn't invulnerable.

Rob